Parking in the visitor car park so bunch up and leave a couple of spaces for local dog walkers.
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Start Times from 1730-1900hrs
Courses – Yellow 1.4km, Forest Sprint – 3.2km
£5 for adults and £2.50 for Juniors/Students.
We will be using a contactless card reader for payments at the event and usual Covid precautions apply including pre-entry only.
Tollohill Entry Form
Shire-dwelling GRAMP members only for this one please as not quite out of the local authority area ’embargo’ yet.
It’s not too late to join/renew your membership.
Lesley will be more than happy to advise how best to go about this. Drop her an email to: firstname.lastname@example.org
Lovely day, smiling faces, good to be back!
Thanks David for putting in all your time and energy to get these events going again. Much appreciated.
If you couldn’t make it today, here’s a snip of what you missed.
Real O Events!!!!
YES, they are finally happening!
Here are results from Hazlehead – big thanks to David Esson for cranking the SI controls into BST-mode and persuading them they wanted to go and sit in a wood again after their cushty number sitting in his flat all this time and to Gareth Yardley for wrangling them back in before they had time to decide they actually quite liked it out there and went feral.
We have other events in Aberdeenshire planned later in April/May:
Sun 18th April – Perwinnes Moss (City) (please note the venue change)
Wed 21st April – Tollohill (Shire)
Wed 5th May – Dunnottar (Shire) but fingers crossed by then we’ll be able to cross the boundary
Watch this space for details and pre-entry forms closer to the dates.
It is still our hope that the Grampian Mountain Challenge can go ahead in November 2021. If we think it could go ahead, we plan to open entries later than we would normally do, probably around 1st August, to allow us to gauge as well as possible how things are progressing, what changes might need to be in place, and the views of other relevant bodies. Please keep an eye on the Grampian Orienteers Club website for further updates.
Mairi Eades is doing a research project on about why adults in Scotland go orienteering for her uni Sport and Recreation Management degree. Could you spare a few minutes to complete a short questionnaire?
Click here for the questionnaire.
Final results have been posted on the DNC blog.
We managed to squeeze in half a series this time before Lockdown stopped play so points have been tallied up for best 5 out of 8 events and any would-be planners of cancelled events still get 50 points for volunteering.
Although the DNC Cup was dominated by the Maroc youngsters again, GRAMP have a podium place in the Mini DNC Cup in the shape of Pete Lawrence. Congratulations!
DNC Cup: Dave Kirk, Gareth Yardley and Dennis McDonald all came in the top ten, Lesley Gomersall flew the flag for the ladies coming 14th overall and 2nd lady.
DNC Mini Cup: Pete Lawrence 2nd, Murray Anderson 7th, Julian Robinson just missed out on a top ten position and Helen Rowlands flew the flag for the ladies coming 18th overall and 2nd lady.
Big thanks to all the GRAMPs who planned, or offered to but then had their event cancelled, and to David Esson for doing the computing/SI wizardry for all our events.
Next Social Thingy involves a quiz on Wed 17th @ 19:00. Check the main post for details.
BTW quiz part not compulsory if you just fancy joining us for a chat. We’d love to see you!
This week I’ll be working on the long threatened swap to a newsletter app for things like GRAMP Gossip rather than emails so watch out for a trial message and please respond so I know I’ve got it right! Rachel
Thankyou to all who attended our annual 2nd January event at Hazlehead.
Results are below –
Long Course –
1. Patrick Lang 25.00
2. Dominykas Kardokas 25.17
3. Tim Griffin 28.10
4. Sam Gomersall 29.32
5. Lesley Gomersall 30.53
6. Julian Robinson 30.58
7. Dennis McDonald 31.33
8. John Lang 32.42
9. Hugh Nicholson 34.10
10. Lynn Smith 34.38
11. Marianne Lang 37.03
12. David Esson 38.35
13. Eric Lovie 39.59
Short Course –
1. David Esson 18.23
2. Ros Nicholson 18.48
3. Samantha McDonald 28.04
4. George Esson 37.00
5. Lindsey Esson 43.18
6. Daisy Cooper 45.44
7. Magnus Huthwaite 53.08
8. Joanna McDonald 55.13
Helen Greenwood -No Time Recorded
Well, looks like it’s probably game over for this season’s DNC now that everyone is back in Lockdown and SOA have tweeted that all orienteering activities are to be suspended until further notice which may be March so too late for night O. Hey ho! It was fun while it lasted.
Annoyingly, Templars Park lies just beyond Aberdeen City boundary – only 300m or so but still technically off limits to city dwellers as per Tier 3 guidance on travel for informal exercise vs organised sports and SOA confirmed yesterday that we shouldn’t be encouraging folk to break the rules by accepting entries from anyone from ‘the other side’.
We haven’t had that many entries to date and as we were expecting the bulk of entries to come from Gramps who live inside city limits, and given that it’s a bit of a novelty event rather than a full-on TD5 DNC, we’ve decided to postpone for a while. Sorry to anyone who was looking forward to it, especially any kids or novices keen to tackle the Orange. We will run it at some point in the New Year as soon as we all get back to Tier 2.
I think for the time being GRAMP and MAROC have agreed to continue running events with entries limited to those who live on the ‘right’ side of the boundary (although there’s a couple of GRAMP ones where we may have to swap planners as they live on the ‘wrong’ side to their area – and when the music stops…!) and we’ll come up with some way of adjusting the league points to discount any events which fall into the Tier 3 trap.
In the meantime, stay safe and have a Happy Local Christmas everyone!
“The slope of these curves varies by task. For example, in sports that rely heavily on physiological fitness—like sprinting 100 meters—the decline of the fitness curve would be steeper than in a sport like alpine climbing or orienteering, where pure fitness matters less and wisdom gained through experience matters more.”
(Outside Online An Ode to Aging)
Want to move the curve for wisdom? Then look out for news on club training which we hope to recommence next year along with more Come and Try It sessions.
Would you like to help a Loughborough student, William Smith, help you by coming up with a solution to misty specs while out orienteering? Then please take a few minutes to complete this survey to help him get a better insight into the problem (his words not mine!!)
Sorry for the slight delay – a weird side effect of timing we’ve not seen before meant those of us with early starts had negative times before David managed to sort it all out late last night. BTW, thanks David for your help on IT and Starts at all the Gramp DNCs, much appreciated by the Planners and also runners – it’s Wed, it’s dark, there’s David standing in the middle of a wood with a clip board and a welcoming quip – a little bit of consistency while everything is so topsy-turvy still.
Thanks to Dennis McDonald for succeeding in his mission to catch a lot of us out old hands out in an area we think we should know really well by now. Why is being “lost” in a 100m x 100m patch of terrain so addictive?
Dreaming of autumn city O breaks back in the old days…. this looks like it would be fun for a Friday night race to kick off a weekend. It’s in Awaza, a luxury resort in Turkey.
We misinterpreted the messages about “Guides” and “car parks” and weren’t expecting a very well supported open air market going on full swing in the Guides’ field. Thanks to Sam and Lesley for taking it all in their Organiser/Planner stride and organising some impromptu parking marshalling on top of hanging the last few controls this morning.
Did anyone go shopping after their run? (Anyone who knows me and my email address won’t be surprised to find out that I was a bit annoyed when I got home, looked it up to see what it was all about and discovered I’d missed out on a chance to purchase goodies from “Flump and Fudge” amongst others!)
Yellow Results and Splits
Orange Results and Splits
Green Results and Splits
Blue Results and Splits
(BTW, I am working on how to get the flashy SI generated html results file uploaded to WordPress but a quick search for instructions talks about editing key files in the background and I wanted to get results up asap so it’s separate pdfs again for now while I chew it over until I feel brave enough to dabble!)
Invoices have been fired out – you should have received an email from Grampian Orienteers c/o email@example.com. You need to click on the “Show invoice” button and that will then open up a browser window showing an itemised invoice (Senior fees, Junior/Student fees, non-NTS member parking fee) and a payment button at the bottom for you to pay by card please. If you have any queries about your invoice contact firstname.lastname@example.org.
Go on – take a careful look at the scrolling photos at the top…. https://www.britishorienteering.org.uk/home
We parked in the bottom level of the car park initially but swiftly moved up after realising that the heavy rain at ~17:30 was being beautifully backlit by the headlights of cars on the top level and making it look really, really uninviting! We were eventually shamed into getting out and getting on with it by all those kids running around having great fun in the wet and dark.
Thanks to Ian Hamilton for planning and Paul Duley for stepping in to cover tonight and David for IT/Results/Start Ticker-Off in Chief.
Have you spotted the articles going up on the SOA site highlighting the achievements and contributions of various individuals?
Heidi Ross and Marie Bernards of AUOC were in the spotlight on Tuesday. They’re doing a great job currently coaching via Zoom amongst other things to help keep AUOC fired up about orienteering and it’s obviously working as it was good to see some of their teammates out at Balmedie for the first DNC including Lucie Hamplova and Margarita Radeva.
Nice to see the lads too obviously but you don’t fit the (rather binary) W&GSW criteria, so sorry, but no namecheck this time!
Congratulations to Sam Griffin on his selection for the ScotJOS Squad and the British Orienteering Talent Squad Tier 1. Despite the lack of events this year, Sam’s been keeping fit with lots of running and cycling and we had wondered if he would be able to remember how to orienteer still but any concerns were squashed on Wednesday night when he came over to the dark side and romped round the DNC Long course at Balmedie in 5th position on his first night O ever.
So now the question is… with no cake stalls allowed at the moment how are Team Griffin planning to raise funds this time?
…does feature three Gramps. Can you spot them?
Big thank you to Julian Robertson for starting us off with two great courses threading in and out of the dunes. So nice to feel the sand between your toes again even if, like me, your rusty O skills were really given a test tonight.
Well, who would have thought all that mud, marsh, bog and assorted wet stuff would have produced so many excited, grinning faces? We’re a weird bunch!
It’s been a very strange few weeks as what was supposed to have been a simple little local event firstly attracted folk from far, far further afield than we’d ever have expected normally and then got snarled up in local lockdown shenanigans towards the end. I have to admit that at various stages of the process both Pete and I thought “Why bother? It’s bound to get cancelled due to another Lockdown.” But I’m glad we did. It was just as enjoyable for me watching those grins (and listening to the traditional moans about fitness or making the same old mistakes – nothing changes that much!) and we both appreciated it when many of you came to find us to say “Thanks for a great bit of old school orienteering” or “Thank you for rebooting the sport and helping us get out again.” You’re welcome!
Although it means fewer helpers required on the day with no Registration queue, we found the main complication was pre-entry and start time allocation during the run up to the event. I was on holiday for 2 weeks shortly after entries opened so a big thank you to Kimi Raikkonen (aka David Esson) for fielding all those emails and plotting the start times as well as acting as Covid Officer liaising with SOA. This meant all I had to do was think about logistics, normal safety stuff on the day, handling the money side and volunteers.
I think job sharing will be the way to go for a while now and why not into the future as well?
Also thanks to Helen Rowlands (non-runner) for putting in a shift as chief car park attendant assisted by Paul Duley and Ian Hamilton; the Gomersalls for overseeing the Green and Short Brown Start (Lesley’s doodling shows it was quite a relaxed affair obviously); Bob Daly and Tim Griffin, Ace Control Collectors Inc; George Esson who assisted David on Download; and last but not least, Jonathan Smith for helping me fish kit out of the shed and then ferry a lot of it back again after the event to save me another journey.
Thank you for everyone who attended today. We were very lucky with the weather.
Special thanks go to Rachel (Organiser) and Pete (Planner) for putting on a great event.
This was our first relatively larger event since Lockdown was eased, and also our first proper effort using the new SI Equipment, so I hope things went smoothly enough for the competitors.
Below should be the PDF of the results and splits.
Routegadget Apologies as this isn’t the georef’ed version of the map so all you GPS gadget fans will have to tinker a bit.
(Useless but mildly interesting fact: the last time we put something on Gramp’s RG was Glen Dye night O in March.)
BOF results page with ranking points
I just wanted to acknowledge EUOC’s sensible attitude to recent announcements and to thank them for their decision to pull out of our event at Glen Dye this weekend. Technically they didn’t have to as there is no travel ban as such but they’ve obviously taken on board the recent headlines that “researchers at UCL said 86.1% of infected people picked up by the Office for National Statistics Covid-19 survey between April and June had none of the main symptoms of the illness, namely a cough, or a fever, or a loss of taste or smell the day they had the test” and decided that discretion now, even though they feel fit and well and were really looking forward to a dose of Deeside, will hopefully help avoid a second full Lockdown later as well as showing concern for fellow orienteers and anyone else they may have come into contact with on the journey.
Here’s the results from tonight’s MapRun Event.
Great to see so many folk turn up on such after such a wet day, although it did stop raining in the end. Shortest distance covered was 3.1km (I think I measured the shortest route would be 3km) whilst others got more km for their money, some running over 4.5km.
This was sadly our last Urban Event due to the lack of daylight but hopefully we’ll to see some of you at the Glen Dye Event on Sunday 11th October. And we hope you’ve enjoyed the MapRun series. [end]
Here are the results from tonight’s sprint event, corrected for Tim Griffin’s GPS placing him on somebody’s roof rather than at control 3….
Thank you to everyone who came!
Urban-meets-classic. Even just getting there would be fun, never mind keeping track of yourself in that maze.
If you want to give us your time, Ros, we’ll update these?
We trust you! 😉
If you’re wanting back into the MapRun event to adjust your pings (now there’s a phrase you don’t hear very often?) in MapRunF HITMO function the code is 9183. The code expires at 23:00 anyway after which anyone can go in and look at results.
From now on we’ll print the code on the map.
The GPS definitely seems to work better on some models of phone or a Garmin watch. Would be interesting to find out which phones folk are using as I suspect it’s an aging tech thing even though the tech in question is only a few years old. Mine’s a Samsung J3 c. 2016 which struggles to keep up with even my chugging pace and only pinged 9 times on the way round whereas Pete’s newer Samsung A40 c. mid-2019 got all 13 pings first time tonight.
For the geeky amongst you here’s an advantage to using MapRunF rather than MapRun: you can review, amend and re-submit your splits to include controls that didn’t ping for whatever reason. On the grounds that many folk are self-timing and will be running straight through the control sites rather than waiting for a ping, I’m happy to trust MapRunners to do this yourselves too and adjust after. It’s all a lowkey, fun way to get us back into the swing of things after all.
Want to geek? Here’s how using the “Hey, I think the GPS missed one” (HITMO) function:
1. Reload last night’s event if necessary (no PIN required now – they expire at 23:00 on the day of the event)
2. Select “Show Results” at the bottom and then last night’s event from the top of the list.
3. When you see your trace on the screen, select the menu button top right and then “Review Results (HITMO)”
4. Tap the info button top right for instructions how to locate and select missing controls. The same instructions can also be found here.
5. Tap “Submit a Revised Result” at the bottom.
You can’t edit times though so what I suggest in future is if you visit a control and after a few seconds still no ping and you’re certain you’re in the right place then move on and HITMO at the end if necessary. And I promise to be more careful plotting the remaining courses for this year’s Urban Sprints series.
It was great to see so many old friends again tonight, tempted out for a run despite the weather threatening to dump on us big time.
Thanks for being game guineapigs and joining the MapRun Tribe. A few lessons learned, not least that I need a new pair of glasses having plotted no. 8 in the wrong place – please accept my apologies for that. We’ll see if we can make some adjustments to the manual set of results tomorrow to compensate those of you who were affected.
It seems that responsiveness varies quite widely from phone to phone. I found myself having to loiter for several seconds at some controls waiting for the next satellite to come round but it did give me time to get my breath back and plan ahead.
The most weird thing reported, by Phil, was having an icecream van drive by drowning out the sound of his phone beeping.
MapRun was the original app which gave you the experience you had tonight but required an administrator to upload courses. Then came MapRunF which also has some natty features allowing you to set your own courses or check control positions all by phone. And now there’s MapRunG for Garmin watches which Sam Griffin was trialling tonight. We’ll let you know whether it gets the thumbs up.
Danestone next week. Look out for an email from David Kirk with details and email address to pre-enter. Thanks for your patience waiting for your allocated start time or quietly slotting yourselves into a gap if you spotted it. Remember it’s all about maintaining 2m distancing between ‘strangers’ so don’t blow it by crowding round phone screens afterwards! (Didn’t think that one through when I suggested using MapRun.) As orienteers you’ll be wanting a scale so…
2m = 6.666667 orienteering kites side by side.
I’ve tried to adjust the times for those who were affected by number 8 being in the wrong position by looking at the traces on RouteGadget to see who obviously spent minutes wandering back and forth. Later starters were tipped off and self-timers would have been blissfully unaware anyway so rather than try voiding the legs (too much maths) I did some pseudo-analysis and adjustments for half a dozen of you.
(Before emailing me to complain about this favoritism, the others might want to check that they bagged number 15 the proper way i.e. by running right round into that group of houses and not just fortuitously picking it up from the grassy patch on the west side of the fence.)
You’ll notice that Sam’s time remains unadjusted as he didn’t wait that long before deciding to carry on regardless. I’ve since sussed out how you can do the same and then adjust your results control list using the HITMO function after you finish. See this post on how to do that using MapRunF (the original MapRun app doesn’t have this function but if you used it last night I think you should still be able to use MapRunF to adjust.)
On the grounds that we’re trusting self-timers to “visit” controls we’ll allow this for future Urban Sprints this year but will check your trace looks like you did actually go to the right area as shown on the map.
We had one or two folk finish but didn’t come back to Registration to report in. As we’re not downloading we need you to do that please so we can tick you off as back safe and sound.
Sorry folks – nothing out at the moment as we’ve restarted proper events but if things take a turn for the worse and we’re locked down again then worth a quick squizz at the website again.
Glen Dye has also fallen into the same trap as Crathes & Tollohill unfortunately: area OK but planner and equipment in Lockdown in ABZ DOH!
But we’re using the time to think ahead to the Urban Sprint Series due to start Wed 2nd Sept and crossing everything that ABZ will be given the all clear by then.
Just in case of further disruptions though we’re planning a wee experiment this year (everything’s so topsy-turvy anyway!) and hope to use the MapRun app for timing but will still provide paper maps for all if required and the option to self-time for those who prefer. We’ll still need you to pre-register and allocate start times to comply with BOF/SOA Covid precautions same as we were going to do for the Summer Series.
More details to follow soon.
As the local Aberdeen Lockdown has just been implemented and the Planner and many competitors live in the City and can’t now travel that far we’ve had to cancel the event at Crathes tonight.
We may be able to rearrange it for later in the year so watch this space for news on both Crathes and our other Summer event at Tollohill that may also be affected.
We want clubs, volunteers and participants to feel safe, confident and also enjoy their first experiences returning to orienteering events. So Scottish Orienteering have put together an Event Guidance document and a COVID-19 Risk Assessment which has been approved by Scottish Government and we also have the support of sportscotland.
Why club members only at the moment?
It’s to do with contact tracing should the need arise, minimising numbers of people using an area at any one time and so we can practice our new anti-C19 measures.
What are these new anti-C19 measures?
Simple things to minimise the amount of person-to-person contact and the risk of person-object-person transmission so for example we ask runners to register in advance, pay by contactless gizmo, no results displayed at the event or anything else like cake stalls that would cause folk to gather in larger groups, provision of sanitiser as well as general observance of the current government guidelines. For a fuller list, see our Covid 19 info page.
Look what we’ve got to play with for future events now we’re gearing up to restart O post Lockdown! Control numbers have been added to the ‘Technical Info for Planners’ post which can always be found easily (along with info for Organisers, Controllers and Competitors) using the menu at the top.
We also have a small stock of SI dibbers available for those without their own which will be sanitised prior to dishing out for the forseeable future as part of the C-19 precautions put in place at future events.
The Gramp MapRun Factory (Rachel) has been busy over the last couple of weeks and we now have several more courses uploaded courtesy of Sarah Dunn. From Aberdeen Uni and Perwinnes Moss (4 variations Easy to Tech) down to Stonehaven via Cove. Or a novelty twist based on and Aberdeen Street Art Trail. You pays no money and takes ‘yer choice!
More ideas are being worked on by a couple of other Gramps too and we’re open to suggestions for either areas to use or courses to convert. Ping an email to email@example.com to get your requests/offers in for either MapRun or lowkey trad courses as we start to prepare for travel restrictions being lifted even further.
And the ‘ding’ bit? That’s how Tim Griffin described the noise his phone made at each control when test running Perwinnes Moss.
Due to the many ongoing uncertainties caused by Covid, we have decided to postpone the GMC until 2021 probably still in November again. More information to follow later in the year.
We know this will be a disappointment to many, not least our regulars from south of the border who have been looking forward to treating themselves after Lockdown, but we feel it better to wait and be able to make concrete plans and proper preparations rather than play “will it, won’t it” for the next few months.
As some of you said you’d like to do more of the virtual O here’s one somebody else made earlier. No cryptic shenanigans just straight forward questions to answer thanks to an Italian club in Trentino.
Question form (in English – they’ve cottoned on they’ve got an international audience) has links to the O map and Google imagery. Too late to submit the form now to take part in the competition but do it anyway with a big THANKYOU! on the bottom.
Visit https://oritrentino.it/virtual-cpop/ for more of these but you’ll have to translate the questions.
In anticipation of Phase 1 and greater flexibility meaning we can get out and further about, here’s a wee reminder that starts about 1 min 40 secs in on BBC’s Out of Doors Out of Doors – Archaeology, Cloud Gazing and Wildlife Watching – BBC Sounds
Congratulations to Helen and Stuart for winning the “answer them all” category gaining 980/1000 points in a time of 4:00 GMT (Gin Mit Tonic) and I know they will now be puzzling over how they got that now they have the answers to check as it doesn’t match up. (Clue: arbitrary bonus points awarded for bothering to convert four score merks into £sd.)
Jeremy came second despite sprinting out of the blocks as soon as the quiz was posted, even supplying photographic evidence, but then fell victim of WiFi problems so didn’t manage to answer them all before the deadline and incurred a few penalties in his panicked rush to submit by Monday.
Pete won both the “500 points with least number of controls” and “most controls in 30 mins” categories by dint of no other entries.
I know of more folk, non-Gramps, who had a go but didn’t want to submit answers so would you like another of these but without the competition side to it? Leave me a comment.
Take a virtual tour of the Abz Uni Kings Campus map using Google Maps/Streetview to “visit” controls and have a look around to find the answers to questions in this Score event.
The questions are all based on what’s visible in the latest Streetview imagery so don’t bother visiting on the ground as the same objects may not be there any more. This is purely armchair orienteering so grab a coffee/tipple and get clicking instead.
All control sites are either right on or visible from the nearest Streetviewed vantage point or can be found via the Photosphere blue dots.
Control scores vary from 10 to 100 depending on whether
– the answer is staring you in the face
– you need to do a bit more manouevring/zooming/panning (like Trail O)
– a bit of a parallel Google hunt required triggered by what you observe
– cryptic clues with the answer word lengths in brackets, e.g. (3, 6, 3)
– a couple which will really test your Google search skills unless you happen to be or know a local historian (but the answers suggested themselves within a few clicks while I was noodling around so shouldn’t take you hours.)
Google Maps centered on Start
O map with Score controls
(You may find it easier to have two devices on the go to view side by side.)
“Loose” control descriptions if you want them – they are also on the O map
Question sheet xls pdf
Answers to the Orienteering Puzzle
1. Aberdeen University, building: new library
2. Seaton Park and Hillhead, building: ‘the boiler room’
3. Hazlehead Park, building: café
4. Westhill, building: shopping centre
5. Danestone, building: Grandholm dental clinic
6. Cove, building: Altens hotel
7. Duthie Park, building: toilet block
8. Westburn & Victoria Park, building: toilet block
Well done to all the winners – prizes…. found on the next event.
Click on the pic to view enlarged version.
Sprint map recognition brought to you by Sam, they are all from Gramp Sprint area, and there’s a bonus point if you guess correctly the function of the building shown in each extract. 😉
Prizes for all…!
See attached PDF. Answers in next week.
Posted by Jeremy.
Well done to all of you who tried the "Gramp Orienteering Lock in Quiz".
Answers -> And see attached PDF.
5. Glen Dye
Next Quiz Due tomorrow Wednesday 8th April.
What with all the Orienteering suspended – do you know or can you find which location belongs to each map snippet?
– for many this will be easy…
– answers in 1 weeks time.
See attached PDF.
Rankings following Birsemore can be found here.
Obviously with the current suspension of all orienteering events until further notice there won’t be any more updates for a while. Next counting event will be advised when orienteering resumes following all relevant guidelines from BOF and UK government.